I agree with flipper, get an education. I would never let myself pioneer and waste my life. I would have waited until I was five or six years older to get married.
I would have stopped waiting until the new system to enjoy life and would have enjoyed more things in life, enjoyed the gift of life instead of wasting it like I did trying to sell magazines.
http://www.freeminds.org/blogs/musings-of-a-watchtower-insider/thousands-die-each-year.htm l. this blog article is solely my personal opinion, but i have tried to present important material for your consideration because i believe that one life lost to this blood-ban is one too many and there have too many deaths since 1945 and it's time something is done about it.
however you think on the subject, just wait until you read the conclusion of my blog article.
oh, by the way, all points of view are important to me and most welcome so i look forward to reading them here on jwn .
Barbara thank you.
As you know my main fight is the child molesters in the "truth" but this also hits home.
While reading this I was thinking of my husband having his heart attacks, the first one happened while he was conducting the school. The attorney elder let me drive him alone to the hospital alone with him having major chest pains. Here my husband had been an elder for about 30 years at the time and no one ever offered to drive me to the hospital let alone call an ambulance for me.
I was all alone most of the time in the hospital expect when it came to the blood issue. Then the attorney was right there making sure that I had his DPA and blood card etc with me. Looking back it is just sick. This same attorney elder was letting a level 3 sex offender take care of a small child and thought it was great because the child molester was helping out the mom, yet this same elder was also making sure my husband would not take any blood.
This is just a sick religion and you are right until you are involved with a problem be it the blood issue or child abuse you do not get it. My heart goes on the Peggy with her daughter and the many others who loose their lives over the blood issue.
Thank you again Barbara.
this couple in our hall an elder and his wife gave us a anniversary gift.
it is a wall hanging that says "as for me and my household sister life is to short and hubby will worship jehovah forever.".
i felt i should send her a thank you card even though i hate the gift.
garyneal
I think you are right. One of my favorite sayings is evil prevails when good people do nothing. That is what this sister is doing. She knows that the pedophiles were following children into the bathroom and she told me she went to her elder husband and he blew it off. So she dropped it. I also remember her telling me of her sister who is an elders wife in Illinois and how the elders in a hall there reinstated a child molester who within weeks was caught in his car in the KH parking lot molesting another child! Her sister told her half the hall left the "truth" over it.
So this woman knows and she has chosen to just look the other way.
If evil prevails when good people do nothing they are the good people really good? How can you be a good and kind person when you know evil is going on and you could at the very least raise your voice to say NO!
It is just hard because these people are so brain washed. It is hard not to feel sorry for them but that may be also because I am married to one of the brain washed member and I still really love him.
Life is too short for it to be this hard. I hate this religion because it steals you life.
LITS
we all chewed on this article pretty well when the news first came out about the " overlapping anointed " concept , however we discussed so much on just those 2 paragraphs dealing with the new " generation " theory - that almost the rest of the article was overlooked .
our lurking inactive jw friend on the board sent us a copy of the april 15th.
i think you folks may find this interesting.. on pg.
Thanks Flipper Loved you take cannot add to it. But to say it is all just CRAZY!
LITS
my dad,an elder for 25plus years,concentration camp survivor,the works,died in a few weeks ago.i am df'd but have been the only one who helps him and my mum.my jw sister couldnt give a rats ass about them.i was at my mom and dads house after he died,helping my mom with everyting,hell,id been there for 2 months because i was afraid to leave them alone.i knew my dad wasnt feeling well.guess he was worse than i realized.he died.the witnesses came in droves.small kitchen.im sitting at the table.they not only didnt speak to me,but they didnt even acknowledge that i was in the room,about day 3,i stopped answering the door..one "lady" called.sister carol.when i answered the phone she hesitated and said",now you know,i caint tawk to yew"{strong southern accent.ala elie may clampett}"you orta let cher mawma ainser the phone.
"i told her to bite me and hung up on her...same here,when we got back home.i hate these people with the fury of a thousand suns,but for some reason,i am now in possession of some great elders notes.been laying low,but im going to start posting the juicy stuff.just cause itd be nice for calvin to know that he was seen "dancing recklessly" at a wedding and that sister renee was being councied for her weight and still insisted on gaining more.also that sister e wasnt giving her husband his "due"..{yik}and that certain concetration camp survivors were being coerced into saying that they were jw's at the time of incarceration.but one wouldnt.my dad refused to play their game,and as a result he was asked to step down as an elder at age of 80.that and that he refused to shun me.his notes have been very enlightening..nice folks thise jw's,no?
they were so mean to my dad, he really believed this crap,and tried to do the right thing.but because he wouldnt dance their way,and turn me,his favorite person{and he was mine|into the cold they treated him badly and mocked him and even his accent.i hate them.really.any ideas?the local elder here,just asked my mom about her financial situation...grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
I am so sorry.
this couple in our hall an elder and his wife gave us a anniversary gift.
it is a wall hanging that says "as for me and my household sister life is to short and hubby will worship jehovah forever.".
i felt i should send her a thank you card even though i hate the gift.
Thanks for everyones response to this. I have been sick for a few days and working.
OK I just wrote a letter to the elders wife, she is young only 30 years old. I think she is scarred about the fact that these child molesters could reoffend and she knows that the brothers at Bethel will leave her husband out to dry. She has seen the really bad pedophile if there is such a thing as a really bad child rapist harass me at the meetings. And she has told her husband who's father is the PO and they both blew it off.
So I told her that I did not understand what the Readers Digest story had to do with the pain of being molested. I told her how the level 3 child molester was studying with a boy the age of 9 all with the elders blessing. How the law in our state says that all of the neighbors of this man must be told that he is a child molester yet no one in the hall can know? I said somehow that just seems wrong. I told her how this child molester was holding the boys little sister who was only 2 years old at the time and taking her outside alone and into the back room alone. I said but the elder attorney felt it was OK because the child molester said he did not really do the crime he just took the rap to save his son from going to prison. I then told her how I was molested myself and one of the man who molested me when I confronted him three years ago said I was lying. I asked her why I would as a child of 9 years of age make up such a story of a man in is 30's fonding me. I said who is telling the truth the child or the rapist?
I now feel kind of bad now sending the letter. Why? I know because she is brain dead just like most JW's and I feel so sorry for her in a way. She is just like I was or no she is not because when I saw bad I stood up and realized that this was wrong and then I looked at the other parts of the religion that were wrong and I realized that I had been lied to and she has not done that but instead has tried to look the other way. YOU HAVE TO STAND UP TO EVIL and say NO.
So why do I feel so horrible sending her that letter?
I do not know. LITS
i recently started dating this guy, tonight he wants to come over and spend the night with me.
but he absourlutly refuses to make any other plans to see me beyond that!.
is this normal?
Listen to DR. Laura I Know I know many will think I am crazy, most people hate DR. Laura. But woman DO give it away way, way to easy and some of her points are right on target. Men will not marry a woman who gives it away they want a nice girl. But in the mean time they use the woman who are up to one night stands.
Do not sell yourself to this looser.
so for some people, there is the one breaking point that makes people leave.
for me, not so much about doctrine, but about how people treated one another.
i always heard that we show we are the true religion because we have love among ourselves.
I am with blondie lack of love. But the biggest one for me was child rapists.
I passed out in service once and the sister I was with just kept right on with the Bible study let me crawl out on my hands and knees to the car. Latter she said she had heard me fall as I passed out. OH the love.
This all happened when I was pioneering. I worked two jobs while the other sisters had husbands who supported them. My husband was the only elder and did not have the time to work. So I supported us as a couple and the other sister who did not want to help in car gas in the country driving aimlessly for miles and miles.
I was exhausted and I would fall asleep in field when I did not have to drive or while waiting while someone was in a two hour call and I got called on by the elders and told the other sisters had went to them mad that I was falling asleep in service.
Oh the love.
But I stilled stayed because like we have always been told where else was I to go, this is the only true religion right?
Then I saw the child molesters with my own eyes and that did it. Some of us have to be hit with a two by four.
LITS
i don't know if these letters have been seen before, certainly some have discussed them.
but this you tube upload is short and sweet in exposing some confidential letters that show the two sides to wt speak.. cheers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzrz4sgqs1y.
Thank you for finding this and letting us know the real take on pedophiles.
LITS
this couple in our hall an elder and his wife gave us a anniversary gift.
it is a wall hanging that says "as for me and my household sister life is to short and hubby will worship jehovah forever.".
i felt i should send her a thank you card even though i hate the gift.
Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this. I was so mad, when I got the letter I could not even read it all the way through, I knew she was going to say something stupid. But as mad as I get I really cannot do anything.
I have went so far as to even get the police records. To do that I told the police I talked to who I was that I was a Jehovah's Witnesses and why I wanted them. The police were appalled that Jehovah's Witnesses send these men door to door. I had one Sharif tell me that if my church allows such men in the church then I need to find a new church.
One detective found a law in my state that says it is against the law for the elders to allow convicted pedophiles to hold children. If I had known of the law I could have snapped pictures of the level 3 child molester holding the little girl and turned the pictures into the police. Unfortunately before I knew of the law I had thrown a fit when this child molester went so far as to dance with the child in the back of the hall and the elder finally put a stop to it. Now the elders lie and say it never happened. I am like OMG. It so did happen. No sister LITS you are just making it up and the wives go along with it.
The police say they have to have prof. The police know I am not lying, they have read the court and police records but so far no new victims have come forward. So the child rapist are clean in the eyes of the law. The police I have talked to are frustrated too. But until a law is broken that I can prove there is nothing I can do expect stop going to the meetings, as it is just driving me totally crazy.
I tired to point out the fact that child molesters do not stop to the elders but that is all worldly wisdom they say. I have books that I tried to show the elders but they got mad especially the attorney elder. He was so red faced and just peer angry he said "I will not look at worldly wisdom." When I pointed out that the books I have are quoted in the WT and Awakes on child abuse the elders just get even more mad.
All of this is so crazy. If I did not experience it for myself I would not believe it. If I were reading this thread I would think that LITS was adding to the picture. Sometimes I think I am. It so totally insane.
I had the husband of the wife who sent me this stupid letter come by to encourage me last October. I brought up the fact the elders broke the law by allowing the lever 3 dropped down now to a level 2 sex offender to hold the little girl. This elder turned to me and said that it never happened. I was just blown away. Fortunately the other elder who was with him and was not even in the hall at the time it happened said I have heard it did happen to the young elder. I was like thank God. The husband of this wife just looked blank. He was so totally lying and got caught. But why lie?
I am just so mad. Reb18 I totally plain on saying what you mentioned the next time I see this woman. It is all so crazy.
Thanks for everyones take on this. I also just wanted to show how stupid this is.
LITS
